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ImagesEdit

With the images you have been adding, could you please keep in mind the image standards as seen in Help:Images? NPC/Creature images are 1:1 (basically a square).--Talyyn (talk) 05:26, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Set TemplatesEdit

My edit comment was about what the dlc/boss/chest params are actually used for, but they are valid for the template. If it's only a single actual thing, it doesn't need a manual link, as the template autolinks. In addition, you duplicated params. I'm not sure what the params do yet, but they shouldn't need manual linking anywhere at all. Jeancey (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I found which template is using the params ({{ESO_Set_List}}) and I'm testing right now to double check that we don't need manual params... Jeancey (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay! I have confirmed that the entries are autolinking, so if the display page you want is identical to the page name (i.e. you previously were entering |source=[[Online:Crypt of Hearts II|Crypt of Hearts II]] then it will work just as fine with |source=Crypt of Hearts II. The only time a manual link would be needed is if the displayed term is different from what you'd normally get when doing something like [[Online:Pagename|]]. In the cases of the pages I reverted, this only applies to the Tel Var chest parameter you used, which I did not revert. :) Hopefully this all makes sense, and hopefully it makes it easier for you when editing! (also, sorry for the repeated talk page posts!) Jeancey (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I didn't touch anything else while you edited. The main thing I was removing (the reason I saw the page at all) is that you had duplicated the |source= parameter (you had two of them listed). The presence of the manual link vs autolink doesn't really change anything for the end user, but it is "cleaner" as it were, to not have the manual links unless necessary :) Jeancey (talk) 21:06, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Quest StagesEdit

Hi, thanks for the work setting up Online:Bounties of Blackwood (quest)! In future, if you don't have the exact wording of the quest stages it would be more helpful to leave the entries blank so that others can fill it in. —⁠Legoless (talk) 09:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Health valuesEdit

Hello! I realize WHY you're making these health edits, but our current standard doesn't include the commas in health values. Different countries around the world use commas differently, and not an insignificant portion of Europe uses them to indicate decimals, not to indicate large numbers. This is evidenced by the fact that the templates that you replaced don't use the commas. Unfortunately, we do have to undo those edits, since it should be a sitewide community discussion that's required to change standard policy. And even if we DO change it, the templates would still remain, we would just be editing the templates themselves to change the process. I'm sorry for any trouble this will cause but it is an unfortunate reality! Jeancey (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Use a sandbox!Edit

Hi! I love that you're working on the Tales of Tribute pages (and on Online pages in general), but I heavily suggest you use a sandbox if you're doing a big restructuring project. You can just copy everything from the box on the desired page. I made one for you here: User:Oath2order/Sandbox

Bane of DragonsEdit

However, when checking dialogue in the LANG file, I can see a line that suggests a repeat? "Hail, Defense Force veteran. Yours is a welcome sight.\n\nThis one is curious. Are you here to chat, or do you wish to test your skills once more?" I would rather wait to confirm if it is actually in or not.--Talyyn (talk) 04:07, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

"ON:" vs "Online:"Edit

Hi again! I saw you recently changed a whole page's worth of "Online:" links to "ON:" instead. I asked about this on the Discord a few months ago and folks were saying "ON:" is for objects (like images) while "Online:" is for everything else (pages, etc.) But I'm curious if it's in writing, somewhere, on the UESP rules for updating pages. Is it? I've been changing ON to Online for months, every time I touch a page, but I'm guessing you've been doing the opposite, LOL, so I just want to figure out which one is correct. Solomon1972 (talk) 04:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, based on your comment on the other talk page, I thought I could clarify this a little bit for both of you. "ON" is an abbreviation for "Online". For filenames (example File:ON-npc-Lyris Titanborn.jpg), everyone will use the abbreviation in its name per image policy. While for normal interwiki links either one will work. Neither is really preferable to the other, and there isn't a need to make a page conform to one standard or the other. While I can't think of this as being a written policy or guideline anywhere, the generally accepted practice is to leave them as is unless you are making a larger edit to the page (usually a total revamp). I hope this helps, and if either of you have any questions about this, feel free to ask it here and I'll answer it to the best of my ability! --AKB Talk Cont Mail 05:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, AKB! Solomon1972 (talk) 05:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi there! I just want to reiterate what AKB said back in January about changing links like this. It's generally preferable to leave the existing namespace style for a link alone. There's no notable advantage to using one or the other apart from being shorter for an editor to type. Any difference in processing speed for the shorter text is negligible and is offset by the fact that ON isn't the default name for the space. Also, if there is any difference, it only applies to editing or purging the page; most of the rest of the time, Wikipedia uses a cached version which has the link fully expanded to "Online" anyway (as you can see when hovering over an ON link). About the only reason I can think of where it's a good idea to change one to the other is in a list that's supposed to be aligned when editing and has becomee misaligned because someone used a different style of namespace. You'll see the bot cause this problem sometimes just because, internally, it doesn't store which namespace style something used originally if it's altering a link. By all means, feel free to fix those if making another edit anyway. For general editing, though, there's no benefit. Thanks! – Robin Hood (talk) 08:46, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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